Thanks to all who commented on the previous post.
I like Steve’s idea for a video conference and just got off Skype talking with him about it. Seems like there’s a lot of energy and different perspectives surfacing so let’s see what would happen to continue the conversation with some video conferencing, Saturday, 10/17, at 11:15am CDT (UMT -5) – 12:15pm.
The idea is for a “fish bowl conversation” where everybody swims and everybody shits – and through our listening, we clear the water.
Topic: An inquiry into the unmentionables in the conversation about ego and Zen.
I’ve asked Steve, an extraordinarily skilled and experienced facilitator, to do just that. I’ll show up and listen. If you’re interested, send me an email ([email protected]) and I’ll send you a Webex invitation. We’ve got 23 more chairs (Webex has a max of 25). Video camera and headphones are essential.
The main thing that I’m interested in exploring on this blog is the possibility for authentic dharma work on the internet. I don’t mind a good row but I’d like it to result in greater understanding and application and think that we could use some improvement in that regard. Here are some questions that seem important to me:
– Am I listening/speaking in a way that deepens the conversation?
– Am I speaking from experience … or speculating … or fortifying a previously held view … or jabbing for the sake of jabbing … or rehearsing old issues that could be dropped?
– Am I putting others in my shoes?
– Am I reporting on my own dharma investigation in the midst of actual practice?
– Am I listening/speaking in a way that expresses letting go of self-clinging?
And here’s an example of much of this coming together (Genjokoan and Heart Sutra too) from Abbot Obora’s commentary on the Heart Sutra found in The Tiger’s Cave, translated by Trevor Leggett:
However distinguished a countenance I had put on, however many professorships I might have held, that was nothing to the teacher. I might feel myself a man of elevated views, but the teacher’s comment was: “If you still don’t know how to answer properly, your spiritual training doesn’t amount to much. Do some self-examination!”